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Does anyone know if it is still possible to post new topics for new users like me? I posted a new topic a week ago and it is still pending moderation.
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As this thread is about DisplayCAL being defunct, I thought the question fitted the topic, and of course, I can’t create a new topic about not being able to create a new topic!
As I do not calibrate that often I just discovered the issues with Displaycal.
However pleased to see progress.
I have Win 11 and used the installer to download and install the latest version along with Argyll v3.3
Everthing seemed to be working well.
However when I tried to profile and calibrate it crashed.
THe error message related to a file Argyll 3.3.0\bin called dispread.exe that could not be started..
Any suggestions?
Thanks
If you are talking about Erkan’s GitHub version the windows installer is currently not working for Win11. You can use the PyPl method explained here. It worked for me as of a couple weeks ago.
I found the X-Rite calibration device below, brand new in its package, second-hand. The seller has responded, and I can buy it if I want to. I’m familiar with the Calibrite product line, but I don’t know much about X-Rite.
Vincent and others, is this the device you recommend, or is this an even older version?
If it is the right one, I believe I can use it with Calibrite’s own software as well, correct? (By paying $10, i1Profiler Software?).
Also, as far as I understand, I can use it with Dell Color Management as well.
Of course, I’ll be using DisplayCAL, but I’m curious about future compatibility in case full support is dropped.
I’ve attached the product below.
Thanks! 🙂
The i1 Display Pro and Pro Plus are the best consumer-grade probes you can buy. Unlike Spyders, they use external .EDR and .CCSS spectral correction files, which makes them more or less futureproof. When a new kind of display is released, you just have to create a correction file using a spectrophotometer or a spectroradiometer.
Calibrite Profiler and its older versions (i1 Profiler, CC Profiler) are OK for beginners but severely limit i1 Display Pro’s potential. With ArgyllCMS + DisplayCAL + DWM LUT, you can achieve much better results.
Calibrite Display Pro HL on Amazon
Disclosure: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.Even if it was a free upgrade, Calibrite Profiler is worse than i1Profiler. It lacks EDR correction for WLED PFS. It says it has it but it’s fake, it’s using GB-LED for all miniled, pfs phosphor ans such.
I1Displaypro = …plus = calibrite colorchecker display pro =calibrite colorchecker display plus = calibrite display HL = calibrite PLus HL
They are the “same” excluding higher nit range on some models (and an associated greater inaccuarcy on oled, near those perfecet 0nit)colormunki display = calibrite SL = calibrite colorcheker display (a.k.a the small brother)
Same devices as as above but slightly slower and LOCKED to DO NOT WORK on HW calibration solutions from monitor vendors.
Market segmentation to force buying the proWith ArgyllCMS + DisplayCAL + DWM LUT, you can achieve much better results.
I have the display pro HL. I use displaycal. What is DWM LUT? Is that a step/tool I’m missing? I assume it is desktop window manager lookup table and is the end product of a displaycal profile creation and application?
Dear Kuba Trybowski and Vincent,
Thank you for the validation.
I will contact the seller to purchase that model and sell my SpyderX. It has served me well especially after what I’ve learned from Vincent, but now I want something more accurate.
Additionally, since this model is supported by Dell itself, I can try and compare it with DisplayCAL. If DisplayCAL stops working in the future, I can always use Dell’s software for it.
Thank you very much for all your help and support.
I will share my experiences with you after testing them.I will contact the seller to purchase that model and sell my SpyderX. It has served me well especially after what I’ve learned from Vincent, but now I want something more accurate.
IF your lifted blacks issue happens only in macos versions of PS, it may be an Adobe macOS version issue when dealing with infinite contrast but unrealistic near black lifted TRC.
i1d3 is far better than those spyderx but may not solve your issue.With ArgyllCMS + DisplayCAL + DWM LUT, you can achieve much better results.
I have the display pro HL. I use displaycal. What is DWM LUT? Is that a step/tool I’m missing? I assume it is desktop window manager lookup table and is the end product of a displaycal profile creation and application?
i1Profiler, DisplayCAL, etc calibrate only the greyscacle, thats all they can do. Then load greyscale calibration into GPU and with that correcetd grayscale screen they measure display and create a profile that describes display behavior (what Photoshop needs to know). Addituionaly they store grayscale calibration so it can be loaded to GPU when you choose that profile for display.
So this limits calibration to grayscale only and you are limited by GPU capabilities like 8bit LUT tables, lack of dithering, banding and such. Some GPUs suffer that others don’t.
DWMLUT is a tool created by Ledoge and know maintanined by lauralex on github that uses your GPU shaders in windows OS to run a LUT3D calibration, with dithering, hence visually akin to HW calibration present on some monitors. “Free HW calibration to everybody”.
This means dithered bandless grayscale but also colorspace simulation, like sRGB simulation on a P3 display.
But also means that “bad behaved displays” that needs a 3dmesh profile (XYZLUT table) because of its irregulat behavior may be “linearized” to a display with almost same gamut but that can be accurately described with a simple matrix single curve profile (this lowers “rounding errors” in some color managed apps).
LUT3D cam be computed from simulated colorspace and custom display profile using DIsplayCAL LUT3D creator, an standalone app bundled with displaycal.It’s a very cool tool buy maybe you do not need it. A well behaved IPS should be able to be described with a simgle curve matrix profile with BPC (fake infinite contrast)…. and if you do not see calibration induced banding in a non color managed gradient, maybe you can skip DWMLUT.
I will contact the seller to purchase that model and sell my SpyderX. It has served me well especially after what I’ve learned from Vincent, but now I want something more accurate.
IF your lifted blacks issue happens only in macos versions of PS, it may be an Adobe macOS version issue when dealing with infinite contrast but unrealistic near black lifted TRC.
i1d3 is far better than those spyderx but may not solve your issue.Yes, I’m aware of that. It only happens in the macOS version of Photoshop. I also read on other forums that moving away from Spyder did not solve the problem. I just want better accuracy, and with this, I can also adjust the white balance of my monitor. It’s time to get a better hardware =)
