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  • #25619

    Fazy
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    Greetings,
    I am really at wit’s end here, I am even considering setting a financial bounty for this.

    Specs
    I have a Dell U2718Q screen, running Windows 10,  Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 8.4.1 with Camera Raw 11.4.1, I edit photos in ARW in Lightroom.
    I calibrated to 6500K, 2.2, 110cd2 using DisplayCal and i1 DisplayPro.
    I use FastStone Image Viewer, ImageGlass or color management enabled IrfanView to open pictures.

    The issue
    My photo looks great in Lightroom. There is depth to the blacks, they are not oversaturated, they have this beautiful fade, same for greys.
    That is the case even if I turn on Soft Proof for sRGB, it looks the same, no visible change at all.
    When I grab a screenshot of that with Sniping Tool and open it in one of the color managed viewers, it still looks great.

    If I export it to JPEG, be it sRGB, AdobeRGB (1998), ProPhotoRGB, Display P3, they all look bad, more contrast, more saturation, details lost in black.
    No real difference between JPG sRGB, JPEG AdobeRGB, JPEG ProPhotoRGB, they look very similar to each other. But in comparison to that screen grab or Lightroom, they look bad.

    PNG sRGB is same as JPG sRGB. However PNG ProPhoto, PNG AdobeRGB, PNG Display P3 – they all look different from each other, huge difference. All look bad, but in new ways, for example the AdobeRGB PNG is very green.

    The only export that looks the same is PNG exported with the calibration profile the monitor is set to. And I don’t think that is going to look the same on other screens.

    I have no fucking idea what is going on anymore.

    Why do JPGs in different color spaces look the same, but PNGs look different?
    Possible answer: I had this issue in FastStone Image Viewer but not Irfanview, I suppose that means FastStone ignores color profiles of JPGs but not PNGs? What?

    How do I fix this?
    I need a setup where what I see in Develop module (possibly with Soft Proof sRGB on) and what I export looks the same.
    Do I need to calibrate differently? I would like to keep those detailed grays and blacks that are not oversatured and I would like those to be on my photos when others open them.
    At least when I show them to my client who calibrated to 6500K, 2.2, 110cd2 using DisplayCal and i1 DisplayPro. How can I do this?

    Thanks a lot, I am so done.

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    #25624

    Vincent
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    Why do JPGs in different color spaces look the same, but PNGs look different?
    Possible answer: I had this issue in FastStone Image Viewer but not Irfanview, I suppose that means FastStone ignores color profiles of JPGs but not PNGs? What?

    You answered yourself. Use reliable color managed viewers and make sure that yoour exports have embeded profile. For simple display profiles (single curve+matrix) you may use even some internet browsers as image viewers.

    It’s “some” of your viewer’s issue, not LR’s or DisplayCAL’s.

    #25625

    Fazy
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    Thanks for your reply, Vincent. However that is not really the meat of my issue.

    Why am I unable to replicate what I see in LR in any export? Why does the Soft Proof sRGB look different from exported sRGB?

    #25628

    Vincent
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    Did you check another softproof app, PS for example?

    Also, are you using Print module (to printer or to JPG) or seeing image in develop with softproof active?

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    #25643

    Fazy
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    Thanks for all help, I have given up on using Lightroom for now, gonna do the proofing in PS.

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