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2018-08-29 at 21:24 #13346
Hello! I recently calibrated (or atleast tried to) Panasonic TH42BT300 with DisplayCAL and X-Rite i1Display Pro to create a 3D-LUT (Rec. 709, 100 cd/m², 6500k) for DaVinci Resolve. The first results were pretty good, but after I tried it a second time, the RGB Gray Balance dusts started to scatter around. I tried it couple more times but it just got worse and worse. All and all, I think the calibratrion was decent, but this really troubles me, since I have no idea what’s causing it.
More info and details on the measurement report.
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Disclosure: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.2018-08-30 at 3:04 #13356Hi,
the TH42BT300 is a plasma display, so it likely has ABL (automatic brightness limiting). Use a small patch area size and enable white level drift compensation during measurements, that should help stability.
2018-08-30 at 10:27 #133622018-08-30 at 16:42 #13369Is there any other way to make the the measurement window smaller then just by clicking the buttons on the window?
2018-08-31 at 18:38 #13389Sorry, I don’t follow. What is stopping you from making the window smaller?
2018-08-31 at 19:54 #13396Okey, so:
- After I entered the IP address in the window that opend in Resolve and clicked “Connect”, the measurement window appears on my GUI monitor.
- I drag the measurement window to the desired location my GUI monitor and click the shrink button on the measurement window until it doesn’t get any smaller.
- I click “Start measurement” and the measurement window appears on the monitor connected via Resolve, but now the window is way bigger.
2018-09-10 at 21:01 #13543Hello? Is there a way to make it smaller or is this a bug ? I could really use some answers.
2018-09-10 at 21:26 #13545Sorry, I’m not able to reproduce the problem.
2018-09-10 at 21:28 #13546Yeah, the Panasonic TH42BT300 is the only one I’ve had that problem with.
Also, I’m using the ultrastudio mini monitor if that means anything.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 7 months ago by Thomasin.
2018-09-10 at 21:37 #13549Yeah, the Panasonic TH42BT300 is the only one I’ve had that problem with.
Weird. The only thing I could imagine would be some (unnecessary) scaling going on in Resolve or through the ultrastudio. Does the Resolve “Color” tab viewer already show the issue or just the ultrastudio output? What’s your timeline resolution?
2018-09-10 at 21:42 #13550I think the timeline resolution was Full HD. I’ll have check those other things out tomorrow.
2018-09-10 at 21:49 #13551Thanks. Timeline res technically shouldn’t matter for the patterns being sent (sizes are percentages), but probably a good idea trying to cover all variables. What would be interesting to see if the viewer shows correct relative pattern sizes or not.
2018-09-13 at 20:05 #13628I recalibrated the plasma with same specs and I made sure there was no scaling going on. However, this time I used a different GUI monitor, 27-inch Eizo monitor with 2560 x 1440 resolution. Previously I used a Samsung SyncMaster with 1920 x 1200 res. This time I was able to shrink the window much closer to the desired size. The window was still a tad too big but much better. See the attachment picture.
The results weren’t much better though. RGB Gray Balance starts to scatter around after 30% between +5 and -5 and it goes completely bonkers after 10 %.
But how big of a problem is this? Which RGB Gray Balance results would be unacceptable?
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You must be logged in to view attached files.2018-09-14 at 14:05 #13633The window was still a tad too big but much better. See the attachment picture.
Doesn’t look like it’s too big from your photo. It’s tiny.
The results weren’t much better though. RGB Gray Balance starts to scatter around after 30% between +5 and -5 and it goes completely bonkers after 10 %.
But how big of a problem is this? Which RGB Gray Balance results would be unacceptable?
Check the appearance of grayscale visually and compare it to the delta E. The only real outliers are level 64 (25%) with a dE*00 of 1.51 and level 230 (90%) with a dE*00 of 1.23. It’s up to you to decide if that’s acceptable to you.
You may be able to influence the result by either using a black background instead of the default 22% APL background, or changing the APL percentage (you have to edit DisplayCAL.ini with a text editor for this, as the setting is not exposed in the GUI, the value to change or add is
patterngenerator.apl
, and the valid range is 0.0 to 1.0). -
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