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  • #34064

    Roman Strijbos
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    I’ve looked into the documentation of argyllcms latest updates and it states that the firmware supports the i1pro3. Does this mean the spectrometer automatically works in Displaycal too?

    Thanks

    #34085

    Алексей Коробов
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    Yes, the support has been added in Argyll 2.2.0, better to use the last release, but I see that DisplayCAL don’t make colorimeter correction when I switch Argyll to 2.2.0 or newer. I hope, this will work in command line, I haven’t tried. But my i1Paint (i1Pro 3 Plus, some different device with large aperture) works correctly in spot mode only (emission, projector and print), I think due to its limited proprietary functions. I haven’t tried normal i1Pro 3 / i1Pro 3 Plus, but I’m sure that Graeme doesn’t lie on Argyll help page. Beware, i1Pro 3 Plus is specific device targeted to measure textured materials, it has serious noise on black displays, so standard i1Pro 3 is better here.

    #34118

    Roman Strijbos
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    Thank you!

    So it’s not possible to make a ccss correction with the i1pro 3?

    #34135

    Алексей Коробов
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    So it’s not possible to make a ccss correction with the i1pro 3?

    Roman, I made test of my i1Paint device, it has limited functionality, but i1Pro 3 [Plus] Basic/Photo/Publish devices are able to measure displays. The difference is here: i1Pro 3 seems to be good for full calibration/profiling process, while i1Pro 3 Plus (that is noisy in darks) is good for CCSS measurements only, cause for CCSS it measures bright red, green, blue and white, there’re no dark patches in this short set.

    #34248

    SirMaster
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    Thank you!

    So it’s not possible to make a ccss correction with the i1pro 3?

    You can make CCSS with i1 Pro 3.  ArgyIICMS fully supports the i1 Pro 3.

    #34804

    salzrat
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    Hi,

    I have an i1pro Rev B. Since i1 Pro 3 is now supported in argyll, does it make sense to trade the i1pro 1 against the i1pro 3?

    The i1pro 1 doesn’t get calibration anymore, and I recently had quite a mismatch between an (also older) i1 display pro  and my i1 pro, and I don’t know which to trust…

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    #34807

    SirMaster
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    Hi,

    I have an i1pro Rev B. Since i1 Pro 3 is now supported in argyll, does it make sense to trade the i1pro 1 against the i1pro 3?

    The i1pro 1 doesn’t get calibration anymore, and I recently had quite a mismatch between an (also older) i1 display pro  and my i1 pro, and I don’t know which to trust…

    DisplayCAL may support it if you manually update ArgyIICMS.

    However as someone else mentioned, creating a meter profile seems to be broken when using a newer ArgyIICMS version.

    But it’s not really a problem.  Just use the ccxxmake program from the latest ArgyllCMS to make and install your ccmx or ccss, and then use that with your colorimeter (probably i1D3) with DisplayCAL.

    So you don’t really “need” the i1 Pro 3 to work directly with DisplayCAL.

    #34809

    salzrat
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    I have updated Argyll to 2.3.0, and have created meter profile with the i1pro without any issue. Do you mean it could be broken only for the i1pro 3?

    My question was rather whether I should expect a noticeable advantage from a new i1pro3 over a well tended i1pro rev B (for colorimeter correction)? As I said, when creating a CCSS with the i1pro, and comparing the whitepoint measured then with the i1d3 vs. the i1pro, I get quite a serious mismatch (7 delta E). I was wondering whether it’s more likely that the i1d3 has drifted (it’s about 10 years old), or the i1pro (it’s even older)…

    #34810

    SirMaster
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    In my experience CCSS failed to be generated inside DisplayCAL when using a newer version of ArgyllCMS, but if it works for you, great.

    Both should not really drift much even over a long time, so it’s hard to say which is more accurate at this point.

    If you want to trust the i1Pro, then you could of course create a CCMX instead.  They should match readings after that then.

    #34811

    salzrat
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    Yes, that’s what I did, but ultimately it’s just hiding the error one of the two instruments makes 🙂 Is there any way to have an idea which of the instruments gives the error (short of getting an expensive reference spectro)?

    #34812

    SirMaster
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    No, I mean without a known reference you can’t make any distinction.

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