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  • #9589

    orlando
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    Dear all,

    I have tried to use Eizo app called Colornavigator NX and I get magenta picture.

    What settings do you recommend to use with DisplayCAL?

    Does anyone have an EIZO correction file?

    Thanks

    #9594

    Vincent
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    Task 1) Complain to Eizo. This should not happen, CG’s internal colorimeter should be factory profiled against new CG’s backlight without issue. You do not need i1d3.

    Task 2) ONLY IF you are willing to renounce to CG2420 internal hardware calibration, use DisplayCAL with:

    https://colorimetercorrections.displaycal.net/hash/1a37715bdcea1f060b898d649d469ecb/Eizo%20CG247X%20%28i1%20Pro%29.ccss

    CG247X has the same backlight like yours (panasonic), but this CCSS is wrong. It does not contain native gamut backlight but an AdobeRGB emulated gamut (less saturated red than native).
    Solution: Open that CCSS file in your favourite “plain text” editor and clean red channel data to “0.0” value from 370nm to 575nm. You may also want to clean green channel from  370nm to 475nm. Row order is W(1),R(2),G(3),B(4).
    After that save file and load it in DisplayCAL for your i1d3.

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    #9596

    orlando
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    Thanks Vincent!

    I am looking at the file and can’t figure out what to change. I don’t know what numbers should be red or green.

    #9601

    Vincent
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    Row order is W(1),R(2),G(3),B(4).
    After that save file and load it in DisplayCAL for your i1d3.

    At the end of the file there are 4 lines of spectral data and the order is what I put in my previous message.
    For each row, each number in that row is spectal data for the nm at that position in list “SPEC_XXX”.

    If you find this overwelming, the easiest way is to copy that 4 rows to a text editor, then change white space ” ” for “,” and open it in a your favourite spreadsheet (MS Excel, etc) as a Comma-Separated Values* (CSV).
    Replace data in troublesome cells with “0.0”.
    Once modified, save CSV file, change “,” for whitespaces ” ” and replace 4 rows in CCSS with that.
    It’s easier than it looks.

    (*) for some european distributions decimal separator is “,” instead of “.” so you have to replace them too. in that situation comma-separated values delimiter becomes “;” instead of “,”.

    #11203

    absn303
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    Hi,

    i’ve got a CG2420 too, but i don’t get what to do with those Numbers(don’t even finding them) in that File.

    Is it possible to upload that file for the CG2420 to the database?

    Thanks!

    #11229

    Vincent
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    Hi,

    i’ve got a CG2420 too, but i don’t get what to do with those Numbers(don’t even finding them) in that File.

    Is it possible to upload that file for the CG2420 to the database?

    Thanks!

    Which one?

    RG_phosphor, the “standard” xrite correction for these widegamut LEDs may be copyrighted. Same for the more exotic RGBLED correction (not used anymore).
    That violates colorimeter correction database:
    “Any uploaded files will be assumed to have been placed in the public domain, so that they can be used freely.”

    If you mean a “cooked” native gamut of Displaycal colorimeter correction CCSS for CG247X (which has emulated gamut lower than native), I could try to post it here later.
    But is is not too difficult to do it by yourself: 4 rows of spectral power distribution. Rows are WRGB colors. Cols are spectral data at that colum wavelength.  CG247X CCSS seems to have emulated RED primary color (close to AdobeRGB red instead of native one). Clean to zero spectral data in red (last 4th row) up to 570nm. 570-730nm band shoud have native red spectral data.
    It’s a very basic spreadsheet work *and very instructive* one of what are you doing when appling an spectral correction.
    Also make sure to mark CCSS file as a non refresh display.

    You can use RG_phosphor from Xrite in DisplayCAL too. It’s the easiest way to do a verification report. i1DisplayPro is a very accurate device and with that correction it may give results good enough for you.
    I would try this one first if all the above seems to complicated.

    #11252

    absn303
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    Which one?

    What do you mean? Eizo CG2420 and i1DplayPro

    #11257

    Vincent
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    First of all, it’s 2nd row. My mistake in number. I wrote the correct order WRGB but IDNK why I said 4th. It’s 2nd.

    CG247X native gamut (similar to CG2420), changed refresh to NO, set to 0 bands which contributed to an emulated primary (R and a little portion of green)

    CCSS   
    
    DESCRIPTOR "Eizo CG247X (i1 Pro)"
    ORIGINATOR "Argyll ccxxmake"
    CREATED "Wed Dec 14 14:13:26 2016"
    REFERENCE "GretagMacbeth i1 Pro"
    MANUFACTURER_ID "ENC"
    MANUFACTURER "Eizo Nanao Corporation"
    DISPLAY "CG247X"
    TECHNOLOGY "Unknown"
    DISPLAY_TYPE_REFRESH "NO"
    SPECTRAL_BANDS "109"
    SPECTRAL_START_NM "370.000000"
    SPECTRAL_END_NM "730.000000"
    SPECTRAL_NORM "1.000000"
    
    KEYWORD "SPEC_370"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_373"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_377"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_380"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_383"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_387"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_390"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_393"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_397"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_400"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_403"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_407"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_410"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_413"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_417"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_420"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_423"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_427"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_430"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_433"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_437"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_440"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_443"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_447"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_450"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_453"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_457"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_460"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_463"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_467"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_470"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_473"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_477"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_480"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_483"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_487"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_490"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_493"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_497"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_500"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_503"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_507"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_510"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_513"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_517"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_520"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_523"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_527"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_530"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_533"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_537"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_540"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_543"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_547"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_550"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_553"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_557"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_560"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_563"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_567"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_570"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_573"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_577"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_580"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_583"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_587"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_590"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_593"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_597"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_600"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_603"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_607"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_610"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_613"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_617"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_620"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_623"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_627"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_630"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_633"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_637"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_640"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_643"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_647"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_650"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_653"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_657"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_660"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_663"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_667"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_670"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_673"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_677"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_680"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_683"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_687"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_690"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_693"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_697"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_700"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_703"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_707"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_710"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_713"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_717"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_720"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_723"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_727"
    KEYWORD "SPEC_730"
    
    NUMBER_OF_FIELDS 110
    BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT
    SAMPLE_ID SPEC_370 SPEC_373 SPEC_377 SPEC_380 SPEC_383 SPEC_387 SPEC_390 SPEC_393 SPEC_397 SPEC_400 SPEC_403 SPEC_407 SPEC_410 SPEC_413 SPEC_417 SPEC_420 SPEC_423 SPEC_427 SPEC_430 SPEC_433 SPEC_437 SPEC_440 SPEC_443 SPEC_447 SPEC_450 SPEC_453 SPEC_457 SPEC_460 SPEC_463 SPEC_467 SPEC_470 SPEC_473 SPEC_477 SPEC_480 SPEC_483 SPEC_487 SPEC_490 SPEC_493 SPEC_497 SPEC_500 SPEC_503 SPEC_507 SPEC_510 SPEC_513 SPEC_517 SPEC_520 SPEC_523 SPEC_527 SPEC_530 SPEC_533 SPEC_537 SPEC_540 SPEC_543 SPEC_547 SPEC_550 SPEC_553 SPEC_557 SPEC_560 SPEC_563 SPEC_567 SPEC_570 SPEC_573 SPEC_577 SPEC_580 SPEC_583 SPEC_587 SPEC_590 SPEC_593 SPEC_597 SPEC_600 SPEC_603 SPEC_607 SPEC_610 SPEC_613 SPEC_617 SPEC_620 SPEC_623 SPEC_627 SPEC_630 SPEC_633 SPEC_637 SPEC_640 SPEC_643 SPEC_647 SPEC_650 SPEC_653 SPEC_657 SPEC_660 SPEC_663 SPEC_667 SPEC_670 SPEC_673 SPEC_677 SPEC_680 SPEC_683 SPEC_687 SPEC_690 SPEC_693 SPEC_697 SPEC_700 SPEC_703 SPEC_707 SPEC_710 SPEC_713 SPEC_717 SPEC_720 SPEC_723 SPEC_727 SPEC_730
    END_DATA_FORMAT
    
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    END_DATA
    
    #16901

    darklight
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    Hi guys. Im really dont know what the numbers mean. I hope theres a way to learn those things somewhere.

    Anyway, i copied it and exported it into ccss file. Now , Im trying to run it with a correction on my Ical to recalibrate my CG2420 that i just got this week.

    I use a Blackmagic Ultra mini studio and using it for resolve. I use a i1 display pro as my calibrator tool w display cal.

    Hope this works well. Thanks for posting this.     Anyway, would this mean that this corrects my calibration.

    (I  i grade for rec 709 gamma 2.2 and using a 3d LUT for resolve). Any additional suggestions or inputs would help.

    Ill be going for absolute with a black offset of zero.   I tried  calibrating with relative and 100 black offset but my  final output seems to be a little less contrasty than what i see on the monitor. Plus my output doesnt get the reds of my grade much. Is this due to the high 1500:1 dynamic range of the monitor and the correction ? My old 8 bit monitor which i used to toy around seemed to match my outputs more accurately  tone curve set to relative and black output offset of 100.

    thanks in advanced

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    #16903

    darklight
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    Anyway, the ccss correction failed. DisplayCal could not read it. Anywhere where i could get a correction ccss

    for EIZO CG2420?  Is there another way to get the right correction? thanks

    #16906

    Vincent
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    Anyway, would this mean that this corrects my calibration.

    This corrects MEASUREMENTS from i1DispayPro. It does not modify LUT-matrix wirtten by Color Navigator.  It’s just a way of verifiying what color naviagtor did, nothing more.
    This CCSS could be used to help your i1d3 to measure accurately your monitor and create a profile describing it, with such profle you can make a LUT3D for Resolve software (it won’t be written to your CG2420).

    Anyway, CG2420 is a widegamut LED with PFS phosphor (AdobeRGB variant), so you’ll need a CCSS with such correction. One source (low res 10nm, I think) can be found in DisplayCAL database from CG2420 or CG2730 or CG279X or CG318X or CG319X. They are the same. These are user made.
    There is another one, “HP_DreamColor_Z24x_NewPanel”, 1nm made with a high res spectrophotometer, it is in HP Z32X software or in Lightspace suite. THis is more accurate but may be not so easy to find ansd translate from binary EDR to CCS. If you search in this forum it has been explained before.

    #16907

    darklight
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    Thanks Vincent. The ccss file i copied from your revision could not be read by displaycal. Im not sure if i did something wrong in the process though. I simpy copied and pasted it

    in Excel and saved it as csv and replaced it with ccss. Thanks for the effort of making that correction . Id love to make it work though.  Anyway, ill try to find that link around here. I hope it will show up . Thanks again

    #16908

    darklight
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    Saw the links for CS2420 corrections. Thats a different panel right? I mean it does not match the CG2420 correction?

    #16909

    Vincent
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    One source (low res 10nm, I think) can be found in DisplayCAL database from CG2420 or CG2730 or CG279X or CG318X or CG319X. They are the same. These are user made.
    There is another one, “HP_DreamColor_Z24x_NewPanel”, 1nm made with a high res spectrophotometer, it is in HP Z32X software or in Lightspace suite. THis is more accurate but may be not so easy to find ansd translate from binary EDR to CCS. If you search in this forum it has been explained before.

    Is it possible that some user has uploaded a CG2420 spectral power distribution labeled as CS2420? IDNK, use ArgyllCMS “specplot” tool to check if it is a GB-LED (peaks in B&G, hill at R) or a WLED PFS (peaks in B&G,  two narrow spikes in R)
    IMHO It’s faster to get the proper one from HP Z32X software but YMMV.

    #16910

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