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2024-05-13 at 19:10 #141289
So this is just an exercise. My new Asus ProArt (ISP) comes with a claim, that the monitor is below a delta E of <2 and Calman verified (and with a Calman report). I’d like to verify the display without a color profile and with the one I can download from their website. Of course I am going to create my own profile later on.
But if I remove any profile in “Profile Associations”, no matter what I choose under “Settings”, “Measurement Report” is grayed out, under “Verification”. If I install the default Asus profile, “measurement Profile” is also sometimes grayed out. It seems that it always works with “<Current>” chosen under “Settings”, but the outcome of the verification is telling me, my monitor is way off. As I’m trying to validate towards sRGB, should I choose that under “Simulation Profile”? And there are two of them, “sRGB IEC61966-2.1” and “sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (Equivelent to http://www.srgb.com 1998 HP profile)”.
Another question:
My ISP ProArt monitor is HDR600 compliant, so what should I choose under “Display & instrument”, “Correction”? “LCD White LED family” or “LCD CCFL Wide Gamut family”? I assume it’s a wide gamut display, since it can do HDR at +600 nits. I can’t find any information about what panel this monitor uses.
2024-05-13 at 21:00 #141291Im guesing which Asus ProArt monitor. Do you have a link? Is ISP a brand? Which monitor? https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/brand/db0f8
2024-05-13 at 21:16 #141292Try a correction that measure close to D6600 . I get D6600 from a pcworld review. But it was not this monitor https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/3b503578 . Its not CCFL . Its not Oled . Not sure what else its not.
HCFR is a faster way to test color correction.
2024-05-13 at 21:27 #141293It’s this one: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/1147276e
And I meant to write IPS (panel type), not ISP 😛
2024-05-13 at 21:54 #141294So this is just an exercise. My new Asus ProArt (ISP) comes with a claim, that the monitor is below a delta E of <2 and Calman verified (and with a Calman report). I’d like to verify the display without a color profile and with the one I can download from their website. Of course I am going to create my own profile later on.
But if I remove any profile in “Profile Associations”, no matter what I choose under “Settings”, “Measurement Report” is grayed out, under “Verification”. If I install the default Asus profile, “measurement Profile” is also sometimes grayed out. It seems that it always works with “<Current>” chosen under “Settings”, but the outcome of the verification is telling me, my monitor is way off. As I’m trying to validate towards sRGB, should I choose that under “Simulation Profile”? And there are two of them, “sRGB IEC61966-2.1” and “sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (Equivelent to http://www.srgb.com 1998 HP profile)”.
Another question:
My ISP ProArt monitor is HDR600 compliant, so what should I choose under “Display & instrument”, “Correction”? “LCD White LED family” or “LCD CCFL Wide Gamut family”? I assume it’s a wide gamut display, since it can do HDR at +600 nits. I can’t find any information about what panel this monitor uses.
I’m afraid that DisplayCAL request you to calibrate display once.
Anyway this does not alter the procedure:
-FIRST OF ALL remember that if you are using a colorimeter it needs a suitable colorimeter correction for display backlight! Withput this colorimeter readisng may be wrong
-calibrate & profile display on ceryain OSD preset. Usually we do this on native gamut “user”/”custom” preset/OSD, hence it will be not comparable to factory sRGB simulation.
Then choose Measurement report all simulation options off => validate is custom profile predicts monitor behavior
AFTER If runt it again but you choose simulation profile sRGB and ALL OTHER simulation options off/disable => validate if inside photoshop it can render sRGB images properly.
There is no direct way to check if calibrated monitor resembles sRGB or other colorspace with this DIsplayCAL version. Maybe with a virtual machine trick-Now to verify factory calibration, change OSD setting to sRGB factory mode
-on measurement report choose as display profile sRGB and choose “use simulation profile as display prpfile ” (remember that thsi option was off on previous validation). This overides your custom profile and clears VCGT grey calibration
-run measurement report, it will validate if that OSD preset matches exactly whetever simulation profile you choose.BTW claims of calman verifed under X are likely to be “mean error under X”, individual values from whitepoint to greyscale color tint may be worse. But let’s check how is that asus.
Colorimeter correction for sRGB only display = White LED / Standard LED
Colorimeter correction for “current” P3 or AdobeRGB display = W-LED PFS/KFS phosphor, or maybe QLED… you’ll have to guess by review or community (https://colorimetercorrections.displaycal.net/ search only CCSS files if you have an i1d3 colorimeter form calibrite / xrite)- This reply was modified 4 months ago by Vincent.
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