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  • #144143

    Nicoloks
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    Hi All,

    Very new to this, so apologies if this is obvious to some.

    I have a Dell U4323QE which I purchased in part as it claims 100% sRGB and 98% DCI-P3 gamut coverage, however my Xrite i1 Display pro just reported 96.7% sRGB and 71.5% DCI-P3.

    Prior to calibration I reset the monitor to defaults, cleaned the screen and killed as much ambient light in the room as I could (HoldPeak HP-881D Lux Meter recorded about 2.5 LUX). My settings other than defaults for DisplayCAL were:

    1. Settings: sRGB
    2.  Correction:  “Spectral: LCD PFS Phosphor WLED Family” then I tried with a user submitted “Matrix: i1 DisplayPro, ColorMunki Display& Dell, DELL U4323QE by 4KM (i1 Pro 2)”
    3. during measurement I had to bump the blues down to 92% and red to 99%, brightness increased by 1% to 76%.

    Are these roughly expected results, or should I be expecting something closer to manufacturer claims? Are there any common pitfalls in calibration preparation that might cause this sort of gap between measured and claimed values?

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    #144146

    DaniJ
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    Can you attach a measurement report/profile to get the exact numbers?

    #144151

    Nicoloks
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    Sure, first one here is the Profile created using the “Spectral: LCD PFS Phosphor WLED Family” correction.

    Size 968300 Bytes (945.61 KiB)
    Preferred CMM 0x6172676C ‘argl’ ArgyllCMS
    ICC version 2.2
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    Color model RGB
    Profile connection space (PCS) XYZ
    Created 2025-08-08 09:37:15
    Platform Microsoft
    Is embedded No
    Can be used independently Yes
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    Model 0x0000429A
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    Creator 0x4443414C ‘DCAL’ DisplayCAL
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    Description (ASCII) U4323QE #1 2025-08-08 09-28 0.3127x 0.329y sRGB F-S
    XYZLUT+MTX
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    ArgyllCMS 2.3.1c
    Device manufacturer name (ASCII) Dell, Inc.
    Device model name (ASCII) DELL U4323QE
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    Media white point
    Is illuminant Yes
    Illuminant-relative XYZ 95.06 100.00 109.07 (xy 0.3126 0.3288)
    Illuminant-relative CCT 6512K
    ΔE 2000 to daylight locus 0.15
    ΔE 2000 to blackbody locus 4.53
    Media black point
    Illuminant-relative XYZ 0.0992 0.1053 0.1144 (xy 0.3110 0.3301)
    Illuminant-relative CCT 6587K
    ΔE 2000 to daylight locus 2.14
    ΔE 2000 to blackbody locus 6.35
    Absolute to media relative transform Bradford (ICC recommendation)
    Matrix 0.8951 0.2664 -0.1614
    -0.7502 1.7135 0.0367
    0.0389 -0.0685 1.0296
    Video card gamma table
    Bitdepth 16
    Channels 3
    Number of entries per channel 256
    Channel 1 gamma at 50% input 1.01
    Channel 1 minimum 0.0000%
    Channel 1 maximum 99.88%
    Channel 1 unique values 256 @ 8 Bit
    Channel 1 is linear No
    Channel 2 gamma at 50% input 1.01
    Channel 2 minimum 0.0000%
    Channel 2 maximum 100.00%
    Channel 2 unique values 256 @ 8 Bit
    Channel 2 is linear No
    Channel 3 gamma at 50% input 1.01
    Channel 3 minimum 0.0000%
    Channel 3 maximum 99.91%
    Channel 3 unique values 256 @ 8 Bit
    Channel 3 is linear No
    Device to PCS: Intent 0
    Matrix 1.0000 0.0000 0.0000
    0.0000 1.0000 0.0000
    0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
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    Number of entries per channel 2049
    Color Look Up Table
    Grid Steps 33
    Entries 35937
    Output Table
    Channels 3
    Number of entries per channel 2
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    Illuminant-relative XYZ 39.37 19.59 0.74 (xy 0.6595 0.3281)
    PCS-relative XYZ 41.67 20.56 0.49 (xy 0.6644 0.3278)
    Green matrix column
    Illuminant-relative XYZ 38.18 72.52 10.85 (xy 0.3141 0.5967)
    PCS-relative XYZ 41.13 72.78 8.88 (xy 0.3350 0.5927)
    Blue matrix column
    Illuminant-relative XYZ 17.51 7.89 97.48 (xy 0.1425 0.0642)
    PCS-relative XYZ 13.62 6.66 73.12 (xy 0.1458 0.0713)
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    Green tone response curve
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    Transfer function sRGB
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    Blue tone response curve
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    0.0000 1.0000 0.0000
    0.0000 0.0000 1.0000
    Input Table
    Channels 3
    Number of entries per channel 2049
    Color Look Up Table
    Grid Steps 33
    Entries 35937
    Output Table
    Channels 3
    Number of entries per channel 2
    PCS to device: Intent 1
    Matrix 5.2885 -2.5343 -0.6848
    -1.6264 3.5240 0.0535
    0.1361 -0.3126 2.6444
    Input Table
    Channels 3
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    Color Look Up Table
    Grid Steps 33
    Entries 35937
    Output Table
    Channels 3
    Number of entries per channel 256
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    Matrix 5.3011 -2.5429 -0.6891
    -1.6354 3.5343 0.0516
    0.1326 -0.3142 2.6505
    Input Table
    Channels 3
    Number of entries per channel 4096
    Color Look Up Table
    Grid Steps 33
    Entries 35937
    Output Table
    Channels 3
    Number of entries per channel 256
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    Characterization device values [23222 Bytes]
    Characterization measurement values [23222 Bytes]
    Chromaticity (illuminant-relative)
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    Channel 2 (G) xy 0.3141 0.5966
    Channel 3 (B) xy 0.1425 0.0642
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    Manufacturer 0x10AC Dell, Inc.
    Model 0x429A
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    This one is the profile created with the “Matrix: i1 DisplayPro, ColorMunki Display& Dell, DELL U4323QE by 4KM (i1 Pro 2)” correction.

    Size 968320 Bytes (945.62 KiB)
    Preferred CMM 0x6172676C ‘argl’ ArgyllCMS
    ICC version 2.2
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    Created 2025-08-08 10:14:53
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    Can be used independently Yes
    Device
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    Model 0x0000429A
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    Default rendering intent Perceptual
    PCS illuminant XYZ 96.42 100.00 82.49 (xy 0.3457 0.3585, CCT 5000K)
    Creator 0x4443414C ‘DCAL’ DisplayCAL
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    Checksum OK Yes
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    XYZLUT+MTX
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    ArgyllCMS 2.3.1c
    Device manufacturer name (ASCII) Dell, Inc.
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    Media white point
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    Media black point
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    Illuminant-relative CCT 6587K
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    ΔE 2000 to blackbody locus 6.35
    Absolute to media relative transform Bradford (ICC recommendation)
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    0.0389 -0.0685 1.0296
    Video card gamma table
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    Channels 3
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    Green matrix column
    Illuminant-relative XYZ 37.50 72.49 11.34 (xy 0.3091 0.5975)
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    Manufacturer 0x10AC Dell, Inc.
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    #144152

    Kuba Trybowski
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    Looks like you calibrated the monitor with its gamut limited to sRGB, which is  a much smaller color space than DCI-P3. As a result, the coverage of the DCI-P3 color space dropped to only ~70% (the colors shared between sRGB and DCI-P3).

    To fix the problem, set the gamut to native.

    #144179

    Vincent
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    Hi All,

    Very new to this, so apologies if this is obvious to some.

    I have a Dell U4323QE which I purchased in part as it claims 100% sRGB and 98% DCI-P3 gamut coverage, however my Xrite i1 Display pro just reported 96.7% sRGB and 71.5% DCI-P3.

    EU Dell store says 95% sRGB: It is not a widegamut by manufecturer claims

    Also as stated MANY times do not use CCMX matrix corrections unless you made them.
    So if we take a look at colorimeter database and look for CCSS:
    https://colorimetercorrections.displaycal.net/?get&type=ccss&manufacturer_id=DEL&display=DELL%20U4323QE&instrument=i1%20DisplayPro%2C%20ColorMunki%20Display%2C%20Spyder4&html=1
    And plot that spectral power distribution we can see it’s and old school White LED sRGB only. Recalibrate using this correction or generic White LED one.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by Vincent.
    #144228

    Nicoloks
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    Wow, I never noticed that the manual states a color gamut of ” sRGB 95% (min)” before.  When purchasing, I’d only been referring to the product pages. The tech specs in the product page for the Dell U4323QE clearly state “100% Rec 709, 100% sRGB, 98% DCI-P3”. I feel rather ripped off by this as photo & video editing were among the primary reasons for the monitor upgrade. Is this sort of falsification of specs common with manufacturers?

    Thanks for the tips. I’ll recalibrate using the suggested correction.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by Nicoloks.
    #144240

    Vincent
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     Is this sort of falsification of specs common with manufacturers?

    As said before EU sore from Dell show actual specifications for that model. The store, not manual of other technical document.

    So IMHO it seems like a typo in AU store. If you trully want a P3 display try to contact them for rerturn and refund ans show them the typo in their store.

    Other that return  money back stores usually do not offer any compensation for typos, since most of them state “specifications can change without advice” or something like that.

    #144256

    Nicoloks
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    Thanks, this is definitely what has happened. I spent a few hours with Dell AU support yesterday and they finally agreed that there was an error on the website after looking at the manual (served from US site) and the US and EU web stores which have the correct gamut figures. Took a bit of  discussion to get them to accept a return request on the monitor for a full refund, fortunately we have decent consumer protection laws which nullifies such company disclaimers as “specifications can change without advice”. I see this morning that the product page on the AU site have been updated already to reflect the correct monitor specs, the old version can still be seen in the wayback machine from a month ago.

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