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I just noticed this issue recently. I calibrate my display using Calibrite Profiler, and then have DisplayCAL auto-load my generated ICC Profile.
On the Desktop and in Browsers (like Microsoft Edge), the colors look fine, like how I’m used to them looking. But I noticed in video games, the colors seem to be quite a bit oversaturated. The main menu in the game The Ascent, looks extremely saturated with it’s red background. It’s not just games either. When I watch my movies or shows in the Movies & TV app, the colors look oversaturated there as well. It’s especially noticeable when watching things like cartoons that have very saturated colors.
I’m not sure what’s going on. I don’t get how things can look normal for some things, but too saturated for others. I’m wondering if there was a Windows 11 update that messed up how color profiles are loaded, and if it broke DisplayCAL.
Games and desktop are not color managed in windows (and games likely to do not be color managed in any OS, unless browser games)
You need one of these:
-a monitor with HW cal which can be calibrated to simulate sRGB gamma 2.2
-a monitor with an sRGB factory preset (beware, likely to have sRGB-like TRC whith lifted blacks, you can aplly VCGT calibration on top of it)
-AMD driver simulation of sRGB
-novideo_sRGB tool for nvidias (github)
-DWMLUT (for any GPU but may nit work on W11)Also Calibrite Profiler set of corrections for i1d3 colorimeter does not support any modern widegamut backlight, so better use DisplayCAL if want to correct whietpoint-
Calibrite Display Pro HL on Amazon
Disclosure: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.Thanks for the info. Does the novideo_sRGB actually apply the clamp to Games and other Windows apps like Movies & TV? Reason why I ask is because I just tried using the novideo_sRGB tool, but I’m not sure if it’s working right.
The problem is that I can clearly tell that my actual Desktop and items in folders are running in sRGB since they look more desaturated than what I’m used to, while my browser (Microsoft Edge) and Steam’s UI all look more saturated (like how I imagine they SHOULD look, since I’m used to DCI-P3), but I’m having the same issue as before where Games and the Movies & TV app appear to be more saturated than what I think they should. It could be that this is just how they’re supposed to look, but they look quite a bit more saturated compared to using the native sRGB mode in my monitor’s own settings.
Could you verify that I’m doing things correctly?
- I set my monitor’s color space to Native (which is the most saturated, but also gives me access to the most settings without being grayed out, since I’m relying on the novideo_sRGB to clamp the colors anyway).
- I run novideo_sRGB, Checkmark my monitor, Checkmark ‘Run at startup’, click Reapply, then restart my PC for good measure.
- I turn off DisplayCAL’s auto-loader, just in case. Then I re-calibrate my monitor to generate a new ICC Profile (I had to use Calibrite because DisplayCAL was giving me an error I couldn’t figure out).
- After calibration, I ensure the profile is correctly selected in Windows 11 Color Management, before restarting my PC a final time.
I don’t think anyone documented a system wide Color management in windows 11 yet. Are you sure don’t have DWMLUT installed already?
Could you verify that I’m doing things correctly?
- I set my monitor’s color space to Native (which is the most saturated, but also gives me access to the most settings without being grayed out, since I’m relying on the novideo_sRGB to clamp the colors anyway).
- I run novideo_sRGB, Checkmark my monitor, Checkmark ‘Run at startup’, click Reapply, then restart my PC for good measure.
- I turn off DisplayCAL’s auto-loader, just in case. Then I re-calibrate my monitor to generate a new ICC Profile (I had to use Calibrite because DisplayCAL was giving me an error I couldn’t figure out).
- After calibration, I ensure the profile is correctly selected in Windows 11 Color Management, before restarting my PC a final time.
You are applying the display profile twice. in Windows color management, Set the display profile as the assumed content source profile, ie sRGB.
Also It seems that he is using sRGB simulation for HDR present on windows?
For testing since you had a colorimeter, it is simple. Save a big JPG with SRGB embeded profile and 3 patches R 255, G 255 and B 255. then see how it is showing or even better, measure with free measurement tool “spotread”. Add -X correction.ccss with the colorimeter cprrection for your screen.
For video there are 100% saturation MP4 files in Rec709 in AVSForum, open them in your video player and proceed the same way,-I disabled novideo_sRGB and renabled my ICC Profile for the wide gamut color profile on my monitor, and I can definitely see that it is a bit more saturated compared to using the novideo_sRGB method. So, I think it might actually be working? I just figured that something was wrong because the colors were more saturated in actual content than what I was initially expecting.
I am currently running Windows in SDR, not HDR.
As for Color Management, under the ‘Devices’ tab, I have the ICC Profile selected that I generated after applying the novideo_sRGB clamp. In the Advanced tab, under Device Profile, I have sRGB IEC61966-2.1 selected, and Viewing Conditions Profile is: System default (WCS profile for sRGB viewing conditions). Forgive me if I’m not seeing the thing MW suggested, I’m fairly new to calibration in general.
Sorry for the double post, but I have something that’s still bothering me.
So games, movies and browsers all look pretty good like their supposed to, but the actual Windows desktop (along with the taskbar, pictures and icons in folders) just look considerably desaturated compared to everything else. It’s a bit distracting, and I was wondering if all my settings in Color Management were correct, or if Windows 11 is somehow not loading the ICC Profile, resulting in the majority of the Windows UI not displaying colors correctly.
Is your display less than sRGB gamut? Are you confusing TRC alteration for saturation increase?
