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Hello, I have a Dell U3219Q, which I know isn’t meant for professional grading, but it’s what I have to work on personal projects with. I’ve tried calibrating my display with DisplayCal and an i1 Display Pro colorimeter and made sure the RGB values were within range before running the calibration. I set the tone curve to Gamma 2.4 and temperature to 6500K as I’m working in a dark room. I’ve also tried leaving temperature alone and setting a target of 100 nits.
The problem I’m having is while the shots on my monitor look good, when I view the final renders on other devices such as my TV, my iPhone 13 pro, etc. the shots look washed out. I know these are uncalibrated displays, but as I can watch content that looks perfectly normal on these devices and not washed out I assume the problem is with the monitor I’m working on. I’m pretty sure the problem isn’t with YouTube or my render settings as I’ve tried just sharing screenshots from my monitor to other devices and the same thing happens.
Again, I know my monitor isn’t meant for professional grading. I just want to make sure I’m calibrating properly and see if there’s anything I can do here. Basically, if you were stuck with this monitor and needed to get it to an acceptable place to work with, what would you do? Measurement report attached.
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Disclosure: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.a ) your Dell display is not calibrated or you are not aplying it
b) measure gamma in TV. Usually you do this with HCFR and a pattern generator like a raspberry pi (pi=full range, HCFR & TV matching ranges). If you do this with a computer laptop make sure you do not have level mismatch.
I have made sure the profile is installed through DisplayCAL Profile Loader and can see the change when I add or remove it with a color managed application like Resolve open. The measurement report after calibrating still seems to say my monitor is out of range in multiple regards. I’m at a loss at what to do. Am I calibrating at the wrong settings?
The measurement report after calibrating still seems to say my monitor is out of range in multiple regards. I’m at a loss at what to do. Am I calibrating at the wrong settings?
Because you removed the grey calibration and the display profile when you run the measurement report.
-validate with no simulation profile at all => display matches profile <THIS ONE BY DEFAULT>
-validate with sim profile but no sim profile as display profile => test behavior color managed <THIS ONE for “photoshop or Premiere” behavior>
-validate with sim profile and sim profile as display profile => test behavior HW calibrated or factory calibrated or no calibration at all or through a software LUT3D like DWMLUT. <you ran this one>
Also you used no colorimeter correction, so the actual whitepoint will be off. These dells are likely to be WLED PFS 9x% P3 so use the bundled correction for i1d3 (PANASONIC VVX… .ccss)
So I found a ccss file specifically for my monitor and am giving it a go calibrating with some settings I was recommended (posting screenshots below). Interested to know if you have any thoughts or issues with that. The one issue I have now, is I can set the RGB and white point/white level fine before calibration, but I CANNOT get the black point/ black level in range. I can get the RGB in range, or the brightness in range, but not both. And of course altering that makes me have to go back and fix the white point/ white level. So not sure what to do about that.
I also got this attached error after running the calibration that I’ve made a separate post about.
-because your display is unable to provide that contrast. That is user missconfiguration. Set luminance for B & W to as measured and when setting D65 lower manually brightness till it’s close to your desired target (whatever it is: 120nit, 100…).
-also on a IPS display is useless to aim to rec1886, read rec1886 spec. set gamma 2.4 relative black output 100%.
-it’s also not recommended on a display of unknown quality to aim for speed high, set at least medium (12->24->48 patches in grey ramp). you may need it, or not, maybe not since your uncalibrated display has good grey range (~1.3 uncalibrated)
-the last error is due to the name you set as display profile, when you change limunance to as measure it will disappearSo this would be about what we’re looking for, or whitepoint should also be set to “As measured?”
So this would be about what we’re looking for,
yes
or whitepoint should also be set to “As measured?”
no, it will skip white calibration.
Calibrate (remember to use RGB gains & brightness) & profile. Once this is done & loaded color managed apps will do their stuff… and only them.
Got it. Appreciate the help. Last thing I’m running into here is with those settings it still wants me to set the black point/black level. Screenshots attached. As you can see I’ve set the RGB values using RGB gain and brightness, but then the RGB offset values for the blackpoint are off. If I set that, then the whitepoint goes off. Should I just set my targeted brightness and RGB gain values and just ignore the blackpoint?
You’ll have to play with a sweet spot but do not push offset too far away from 50 default and keeep 1 gain at 100. Once you get close ignore dark grey mismatch, and with desired white color and luminance proceed with calibration
You’ll have to play with a sweet spot but do not push offset too far away from 50 default and keeep 1 gain at 100. Once you get close ignore dark grey mismatch, and with desired white color and luminance proceed with calibration
Vincent, how can you fix the black point bad delta?
with the offset control, but IDNK if your display has it. Ultrasharps usually had it in custom color mode. Be careful to do not clip channels, a non color managed lagom test may help.
Edit: You may not fully correct it but lower 7dE till 3dE you can, usually.
with the offset control, but IDNK if your display has it. Ultrasharps usually had it in custom color mode. Be careful to do not clip channels, a non color managed lagom test may help.
Edit: You may not fully correct it but lower 7dE till 3dE you can, usually.
That’s ok, but what about those monitors which doesn’t have offset control?
