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2023-10-29 at 4:32 #139525
Hello. I am new to this site but it seemed like an appropriate place to ask a few questions I have been trying to figure out. I’ve been working on getting my setup ready for color accuracy (I am pursuing a career that involves Blender, 3D rendering, etc.) but have run into a few ‘roadblocks’ I’d like to ask about.
Years ago, when I knew even less about color management, I messed around with a variety of 3rd party calibration software. I was pretty sloppy with the changes made, and I neglected to keep track of what the ‘default’ state was. Additionally, I made a plethora of changes to both the Windows color management as well as the settings located in the Nvidia control panel. At the time, I believed wrongly that I could simply eyeball these things.
My questions are:
-Do third party color calibration software (Such as calibrize) make changes ‘beyond’ the creation of ICC profiles, so to speak? In other words, would these software be able to change something at a deeper level (such as the direct calibration of a monitor display) that would be more difficult/less obvious to reset? Changes that aren’t necessarily confined to the windows OS?
-Assuming I purchase calibration hardware such as the Spyder X pro, would any previous changes made even matter? My understanding is that this tool will create an ICC profile for a display, so will it cause an issue if the display has pre-existing changes made to it (changes that, again, are ‘deeper’ than ICC profiles, such as direct adjustments to a monitors gamma curve)?
-Would a reinstallation of Windows reset any pre-existing calibrations (ICC or otherwise)? I understand that Nvidia control panel changes aren’t effected but Nvidia is nice enough to have a ‘restore defaults’ button.
-I understand that monitors typically have OSD settings that specifically adjust the monitor separate from the changes made in the OS/software. Would there be any equivalent to this for a laptop display, and if so, would that impact the calibration process?
My overall concern is that I’m going to purchase the calibration tool and use it, but some change I’ve made in the past will throw things off even after calibration. I couldn’t tell you every single tool I used but I guarantee there were ‘overlapping’ calibrations, and potentially ones that made more direct adjustments to the hardware itself beyond Windows.
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Disclosure: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.2023-10-30 at 14:57 #139541Hello. I am new to this site but it seemed like an appropriate place to ask a few questions I have been trying to figure out. I’ve been working on getting my setup ready for color accuracy (I am pursuing a career that involves Blender, 3D rendering, etc.) but have run into a few ‘roadblocks’ I’d like to ask about.
Years ago, when I knew even less about color management, I messed around with a variety of 3rd party calibration software. I was pretty sloppy with the changes made, and I neglected to keep track of what the ‘default’ state was. Additionally, I made a plethora of changes to both the Windows color management as well as the settings located in the Nvidia control panel. At the time, I believed wrongly that I could simply eyeball these things.
My questions are:
-Do third party color calibration software (Such as calibrize) make changes ‘beyond’ the creation of ICC profiles, so to speak? In other words, would these software be able to change something at a deeper level (such as the direct calibration of a monitor display) that would be more difficult/less obvious to reset? Changes that aren’t necessarily confined to the windows OS?
IDNK about calibrize. 3rd party tools like novideo_sRGB or DWMLUT can do gamut correction while DisplayCAL/i1Profiler and socftware like taht apply greyscale calibration (+ICC profile creation for color managed apps).
If you wish DDC/CI or HW cal you’ll have to rely on propierario software with access to vendor SDK.-Assuming I purchase calibration hardware such as the Spyder X pro, would any previous changes made even matter? My understanding is that this tool will create an ICC profile for a display, so will it cause an issue if the display has pre-existing changes made to it (changes that, again, are ‘deeper’ than ICC profiles, such as direct adjustments to a monitors gamma curve)?
Buying an Spyder is not advised, better an i1d3. Said that, if device has a preexisting HW cal (grey or gamut) DIsplayCAL will correct grayscale in GPU laik any othe rdisplay , then create an ICC profile storing after grey calibration behavior
-Would a reinstallation of Windows reset any pre-existing calibrations (ICC or otherwise)? I understand that Nvidia control panel changes aren’t effected but Nvidia is nice enough to have a ‘restore defaults’ button.
Never use GPU controsl (excluding sRGB simulation in AMD). If reinstalation wipes content of c:/ your profiles will be lost and User folder too (DisplayCAL saves a copy there)
-I understand that monitors typically have OSD settings that specifically adjust the monitor separate from the changes made in the OS/software. Would there be any equivalent to this for a laptop display, and if so, would that impact the calibration process?
AFAIK laptops has no such controls, so whietpoint is corrected as any other grey in GPU.
My overall concern is that I’m going to purchase the calibration tool and use it, but some change I’ve made in the past will throw things off even after calibration. I couldn’t tell you every single tool I used but I guarantee there were ‘overlapping’ calibrations, and potentially ones that made more direct adjustments to the hardware itself beyond Windows.
Changes on monitor will be unaffected by DisplayCAL, unless you wish to change it once you measure it because your manual/visual adjustments were off.
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