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2022-11-03 at 16:04 #37554
I have a measurement report of MHC2gen SDR-CSC in action.
should use MHC2gen to generate a CSC from my displaycal profile?
Yes, of course.
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I have a measurement report of MHC2gen SDR-CSC in action.
should use MHC2gen to generate a CSC from my displaycal profile?
Yes, of course.
Thanks mate. Could you help me with the syntax of MHC2gen? This is the sample:
MHC2Gen sdr-csc [–source-gamut=<sRGB|AdobeRGB|P3D65|BT2020> | –source-gamut-icc=<icc file>] “C:\…\DisplayCAL\storage\…\MODEL #1 2022-01-01 00-00 0.3127x 0.329y sRGB F-S XYZLUT+MTX.icm” “MODEL CSC sRGB.icm”
but i don’t understand it… Sorry for the inconvenience
2022-11-03 at 20:08 #37558Thanks mate. Could you help me with the syntax of MHC2gen? This is the sample:
MHC2Gen sdr-csc [–source-gamut=<sRGB|AdobeRGB|P3D65|BT2020> | –source-gamut-icc=<icc file>] “C:\…\DisplayCAL\storage\…\MODEL #1 2022-01-01 00-00 0.3127x 0.329y sRGB F-S XYZLUT+MTX.icm” “MODEL CSC sRGB.icm”
but i don’t understand it… Sorry for the inconvenience
It’s simpler than you think, type the command, with changes as needed:
MHC2Gen sdr-csc “x:\Path\to-your\DisplayCAL\Profile.icm” “Name your CSC profile.icm”
Right click the generated icm file, click install. You can now add it as the default display profile in Windows Color Management.
2022-11-03 at 21:13 #37561
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Thanks mate. Could you help me with the syntax of MHC2gen? This is the sample:
MHC2Gen sdr-csc [–source-gamut=<sRGB|AdobeRGB|P3D65|BT2020> | –source-gamut-icc=<icc file>] “C:\…\DisplayCAL\storage\…\MODEL #1 2022-01-01 00-00 0.3127x 0.329y sRGB F-S XYZLUT+MTX.icm” “MODEL CSC sRGB.icm”
but i don’t understand it… Sorry for the inconvenience
It’s simpler than you think, type the command, with changes as needed:
MHC2Gen sdr-csc “x:\Path\to-your\DisplayCAL\Profile.icm” “Name your CSC profile.icm”
Right click the generated icm file, click install. You can now add it as the default display profile in Windows Color Management.
Nice! Thanks again. Best regards
2022-11-05 at 12:26 #37598Just wondering, what CPU does your ASUS laptop use? Seems like Windows ACM only supports Intel 12th gen/AMD Ryzen integrated graphics.
Supported GPU:AMD:AMD RX 400 Series or later
AMD Ryzen processors with Radeon Graphics
IntelIntegrated: Intel 12th Gen (Alder Lake) or later
Discrete: Intel DG1 or later
NVIDIA:NVIDIA GTX 10xx or later (Pascal+)2022-11-05 at 13:01 #37605
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Intel i5 11300H (Asus Vivobook Pro K3500PC) . Anyway, MHC2Gen it’s a workaround, not the official ACM solution. Currently, it seems that ACM only works in some Surfaces.
2023-12-19 at 0:07 #140149Hey guys,
I tried to find this feature on Win 11 but it is not available. I got a P3 color range monitor and would like to know if it is possible to take advantage of this in Win 11?
As far as I know my PC meets all the requirements.
2024-04-02 at 12:13 #141000Hi.
I would like to know if there is a way to verify calibration results with DisplayCal after making a profile with MHC2Gen sdr-acm and enabling ACM in display settings?
I have a wide-gamut Eizo monitor and I would like to switch to ACM from using DwmLut to emulate sRGB when I am not using Photoshop.
The thing is if “Use legacy display ICC color management” is enabled for an app, windows generates a synthetic icc profile and forces the app to use it (for example, on my system it is {bc613d2c-3af2-502e-9678-ab1d50b85c51}.icm – I can verify this by running XnView and checking currently applied icc).It this case how can we verify this synthetic profile with enabled ACM? Is it even possible with DisplayCal?
2024-12-22 at 15:23 #142612Some news about MHC2 tool
2024-12-22 at 16:23 #142617BTW W11 new “color managed desktop” assumes EDID coordinates and then simulate whatever you choose as “profile” (like a simple version of DWMLUT where profile is source and destination is always EDID native gamut.
It may be good for typical gamer display at 95% P3 and faulty or limited sRGB OSD mode su user is forced to use soem native gamut OSD mode… but it’s a PITA if your display can use several HW cal slots with diferent gamuts so I disabled it.-
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2024-12-22 at 16:56 #142621BTW W11 new “color managed desktop” assumes EDID coordinates and then simulate whatever you choose as “profile” (like a simple version of DWMLUT where profile is source and destination is always EDID native gamut.
It may be good for typical gamer display at 95% P3 and faulty or limited sRGB OSD mode su user is forced to use soem native gamut OSD mode… but it’s a PITA if your display can use several HW cal slots with diferent gamuts so I disabled it.One might say the same when comparing to novideo_srgb which can switch target profiles on the fly, plus configurable TRC.
2024-12-22 at 17:10 #142622If ACM is limited to EDID data only then that’s a big disadvantage, using a displaycal generated profile would be much better. This is what MHC2 can adress, and recently allow for intentional 2.2 gamma TRC mismatch that most will desire.
If apps can work well interfacing with ACM maybe it will become a viable alternative in the future. For now even the native ACM implementation is only in preview stage.
2024-12-23 at 15:59 #142634IDNK if this “ACM” is what I saw in W11 by enabling this “desktop color management”, IDNK its name.
2025-01-03 at 4:33 #142708In Win 11 24H2, ACM is available by clicking on the “Color profile” field in Display settings (on the field itself, not on the droplist with the name of your current profile). There, under the list of your installed profiles, you will see the section labeled “Color management” and the option “Automatically manage color for apps”. If this is enabled, you’re using ACM.
But it does seem unclear where it’s getting the info it uses. My monitor, for example, has a pretty solid sRGB mode, but if I enable ACM, it desaturates the colors a lot, because for some reason it seems to assume the monitor is actually set to its native gamut (because the colors are correct when I force native gamut on the monitor). noVideo_sRGB doesn’t do this – if the monitor is already in the sRGB mode, the colors stay as they are.
2025-01-03 at 11:33 #142731But it does seem unclear where it’s getting the info it uses. My monitor, for example, has a pretty solid sRGB mode, but if I enable ACM, it desaturates the colors a lot, because for some reason it seems to assume the monitor is actually set to its native gamut (because the colors are correct when I force native gamut on the monitor). noVideo_sRGB doesn’t do this – if the monitor is already in the sRGB mode, the colors stay as they are.
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