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Hey guys!
New here and have been using an IPS and TN panels for a while and recently got my new QD OLED. Have a spyder x elite which, I don’t think works very well or doesn’t even support OLEDs… So an looking at getting a new tool. I’m seeing that my best choice is maybe the CB Plus Hl? Would this be correct?
Thanks in advance!
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Disclosure: As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.When it comes to OLEDs, calibrating the grayscale with an HL sensor yields noticeably worse results compared to a non-HL one.
You should get a non-HL i1 Display Pro:
- X-Rite i1 Display Pro/Pro Plus;
- Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro/Plus;
Argh I see. Thanks for your reply. Been looking for the xrite i1’s but seem to be hard to find in Australia. How old are they?
Hoping foe something accessible, accurate and semi future proof.
Will these still do hdr calibration? Not that this is a deal breaker just curious. ☺️
The latest regular i1 Display Pros – from Calibrite – are from 2023, when they were replaced by the HL models.
Unfortunately, I can’t help you with HDR calibration.
No worries. Thank you again. ☺️
- Hrmm just have to look harder. I can get the Colourbrite ColorChecker Pro from Amazon (international). These are the replacements for the i1 models yeah?
Hey guys!
New here and have been using an IPS and TN panels
Nothing to do wth colorimeter, it’s the backlight type at the rear what matters for correction a colorimeter measure.
for a while and recently got my new QD OLED. Have a spyder x elite which, I don’t think works very well or doesn’t even support OLEDs…
It corrects all different widegamut LED / OLED with asingle correction. Try it, it shoudl be aclled Wide LED/ PFS phosphor / RGB LED.
So an looking at getting a new tool. I’m seeing that my best choice is maybe the CB Plus Hl? Would this be correct?
Thanks in advance!
Before buying try the widegamut setting for spyder. If whitepoint results in some color tint after calibration you can try visual whitepoint editor.
Otherwise, an i1d3 like you said, although the plus version may zero the readings in OLED on near black. Read AVS forum about HL and near black OLED readings.Thanks for your reply.
So I can use the elite? I’ve been speaking to thier support about it but, they say this elite is/was the best in its class and now, in few words or less, it’s ‘not guaranteed’ to calibrate OLEDs…
So I can use it in your opinion? I did a calibration today with it in DisplayCal, and I’m finding, after calibration, I may need to just slightly adjust the saturation to get the right point. Is there a test in DC that I can use for this specifically?Thanks for your reply.
So I can use the elite? I’ve been speaking to thier support about it but, they say this elite is/was the best in its class and now,
For Datacolor products, but they are far bellow what an i1d3 can offer.
in few words or less, it’s ‘not guaranteed’ to calibrate OLEDs…
Any colorimeter can measure oleds, excluding black/ near black OLED. But you’ll need a correction for each backlight type. Datacolor devices come with a set of limited corrections and if you need more, you’ll need t buy/borrow/rent an spectrophotometer and create them.
Xrite’s i1d3 devices can share a distributed type of corrections called CCSS, thes corrections contain no information abut individual colorimeter, just display, so they can be shared. Corrections for SPyderX cannot be shared, you can try to use it but it unlikely fit your particular colorimeter.
That’s why people who do a little research before buying, end buying Xrite/Calibrite i1d3 ( i1DIsplayPro variants)So I can use it in your opinion?
You can use it as instructed, but the set of built in (likely innacurate) corrections, buy/borrow/rent-ing a spectrophotometer or by visual white point editor if resting whitepoint form WidLED correction built in SPyderX does not look “white” to you
I did a calibration today with it in DisplayCal, and I’m finding, after calibration, I may need to just slightly adjust the saturation to get the right point. Is there a test in DC that I can use for this specifically?
DisplayCAL, Datacolor software or i1Profiler/Calibrite profiler ONLY adjust whitepoint and gamma, the creat a profile with device description (primaries and gamma).
Oversaturation is caused by lack of color managemet in apps. Use color managed browsers (Edge, Firefox with a few tweaks) but stay on simple curve matrix profile not XYZLUT, color managed image viewers and color managed video players.
You can try some apps that simulate sRGB on widegamut displays using GPU: novideoSRGB (nvidia), AMD driver, or DWMLUT. But remember that when you enable sRGB simulations color managed apps may show desaturated colors.This has nothing to do with owning an Spyder or an i1d3. This is basic color management knowledge and you’ll have to search about it.
Wow, thanks for this. I really appreciate it. This helps alot. Sorry for being the noob, I’m stepping up my colour grading and really need to understand some of the basic colour representations, gamuts and profiles. By getting this down I hope to be a better grader and in turn a better videographwr. There’s always more to learn lol. Ive used Adobe for years, currently so this is where I’ll be grading all my material so really just need this to be accurate atm. ☺️
Thanks Kuba.
@DaniJ – The monitor ‘out of the box’ is set up ok, but not ‘accurate’ at all. The sRGB Cal mode is supposed to be what the reports are based off and as far as that goes, its ok but still not right, this mode has some clamping that really wastes the potential of the display. That being said, the Wide Gamut setting is fine but after referencing to other monitors, TVs, phones, tablets, the white point and saturation seem to be a little off. So, its definitely not ‘bad bad’ but as I would like close to accurate ‘real’ as possible, I am just chasing my best path to get that result. My feeling on it is that If I can be editing on something that I can reference too, I can adjust from there.Funny thing is, Colourbrite are saying the HL Pro can do it all… HDR included..more colour spaces etc. Is this marketing hype or is the Plus and Pro non HLs actually better?
Funny thing is, Colourbrite are saying the HL Pro can do it all… HDR included
This depends on max nit and min nit able to read accurately.
..more colour spaces etc.
Colorimeters know nothing about colorspaces. But i1d3 from Xrite/Calibrite can be “software” upgraded in a distributed way to support new backlight types (CCSS or EDR colorimeter corrections).
Calibrite Profiler software has almost none of these corrections BTW, but DisplayCAL/HCFR/CalMAN/LightIllusion software have those corrections for new backlightsSo , yes, the calibrite HL can support it all, but not with Calibrte software.
An SpyderX could support it all if its nit range [min – max] can mesaure that HDR device AND you have an spectrophotometer to make a custom correction. SPyder corrections cannot be distributed.
Is this marketing hype or is the Plus and Pro non HLs actually better?
They can measure darker OLED patches before measuring 0nits. Search in AVS forum for a minumum nit read.
It’s like if the tweaked the “gain” in the HL vs old i1displaypro so they can effectively measure higher nits, but at the expense to read 0 nit when an oled is outputing a near black that is not 0nit.
In practical use maybe not a real handicap.
